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555anonymous555
 
Sep 20, 2016

Disgusting Standard of Interview for Faculty Selection

I fully support Dr. anonymous (see the third post) for sharing his wonderful and very useful experiences, which are indeed shocking, which I bet are very essential for many candidates who are currently applying to fill the vacancies of UGC. Honestly, the standard of the interview I am experienced with was nothing other than a situation that can effectively be realized what happens when uneducated professionals are appointed to interview the educated ones, who are not familiar with what they are actually doing during their daily scientific practices. In fact, and to my personal judgement, it is not very surprising to me that the standard of the interview was TOO worse. It is nothing other a situation that can be typified when one compares this with a circumstance: how fully uneducated ministers (some rapist, murderers, etc.) do rule the educated masses in India.

In whatever occasion, if I remember it correctly, the so-called faculty recharge committee interviewing the candidate(s) was consisting of a lady (presumably the chairman?) and around 4 male professors (?). Firstly, it was too bad that these personnel were unable to express themselves in a language that was the only medium to communicate with. Secondly, they were always tempted badly to ask questions to examine the academic credentials of the candidate. Such one-by-one (sometime overlapping) questions were too stupid and too silly that asking of these does not only diminish the standard of the candidate’s reputation but also display a reflection of the poor judging quality of the committee members, which was really SHOCKING. These members do not learn how to respect a research professional, nor did they learn what should they ask to the research colleague they are interviewing with? I really wonder how come these poor intellectuals got to their own posts during their adulthood decades ago. Do these interviewers have had any positive quality to examine the capability of a research individual, who has been exposed with several countries, such as the US, Canada, Taiwan, Europe, and Japan, among others? How come the UGC could appoint such poor intellectuals for the aforesaid purpose?

I remember the committee members did have no patience to listen to the answers the candidate was providing. Some of the stupid questions they asked were: tell us the names of isotopes of the carbon, tell us the various names of fullerene, etc.; I bet these questions can be satisfactorily answered by my 9 years old son. Similar other related questions posed in that interview were: Do you know the negative impact of C60 in medicinal chemistry, and its implications? Is it poisonous?

I would now ask: Should one dare to ask these above questions to someone who is the sole author of a few fullerene based papers published in high impact journals. And, why at all a scientist who is too much theoretical would know the synthetic detail of how to make a C60 experimentally? Like Dr. anonymous wrote in his post, the committee members have limited knowledge, and they are prefixed with limited number of stupid questions. If someone answer them different, then the interviewers think it could be the wrong answer. It is obvious because they do not perhaps have the quality of judging. Again, some other nontechnical questions posed were: tell us about your educational history, tell us the top researches that you have performed, etc. Even though, the committee members were tempted to ask several such questions to reflect their stupidities, but annoyingly they did not have any interest/patience to listen how the candidate is addressing the questions systematically in a step-wise manner? How arrogant and annoying it could feel especially when the candidate sees the interview is finished within a maximum of 5-10 mins? I really hesitate to write about other details. IF I EVER COME ACROSS SIMILAR SCENARIOS AGAIN I WONT HESITATE TO ASK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS “DO YOU GUYS LEARN HOW TO INTERVIEW? HOW TO DEAL and RESPECT YOUR COLLEAGUE WITH WHOM YOU MAY LIKELY TO SHARE THE SAME CHAIR IN THE FORTHCOMING YEARS?” I will do so because I am pretty sure that these poor intellectuals misuse their power, and they continue to do so until they are thrown out their chairs (i.e., they continue to do so until their retirements).

My question to UGC: should this be the way to judge/decide/select candidates to educate/trend the future generations in science, education, and research, and to advance the educational system of India?

How come illiterate and uneducated personnel would educate/advance the future generations if they are appointed to do so?
555anonymous555
 
Sep 20, 2016

Disgusting Standard of Interview for Faculty Selection

I fully support Dr. anonymous for sharing his wonderful and very useful experiences, which are indeed shocking, which I bet are very essential for many candidates who are currently applying to fill the vacancies of UGC. Honestly, the standard of the interview I am experienced with was nothing other than a situation that can effectively be realized what happens when uneducated professionals are appointed to interview the educated ones, who are not familiar with what they are actually doing during their daily scientific practices. In fact, and to my personal judgement, it is not very surprising to me that the standard of the interview was TOO worse. It is nothing other a situation that can be typified when one compares this with a circumstance: how fully uneducated ministers (some rapist, murderers, etc.) do rule the educated masses in India.

In whatever occasion, if I remember it correctly, the so-called faculty recharge committee interviewing the candidate(s) was consisting of a lady (presumably the chairman?) and around 4 male professors (?). Firstly, it was too bad that these personnel were unable to express themselves in a language that was the only medium to communicate with. Secondly, they were always tempted badly to ask questions to examine the academic credentials of the candidate. Such one-by-one (sometime overlapping) questions were too stupid and too silly that asking of these does not only diminish the standard of the candidate’s reputation but also display a reflection of the poor judging quality of the committee members, which was really SHOCKING. These members do not learn how to respect a research professional, nor did they learn what should they ask to the research colleague? I really wonder how come these poor intellectuals got to their own posts during their adulthood decades ago. Do these interviewers have had any positive quality to examine the capability of a research individual, who has been exposed with several countries, such as the US, Canada, Taiwan, and Japan, among others? How come the UGC could appoint them for the aforesaid purpose?

I remember the committee members did have no patience to listen to the answers the candidate was providing. Some of the stupid questions they asked were: tell us the names of isotopes of the carbon, tell us the various names of fullerene, etc.; I bet these questions can be satisfactorily answered by my 9 years old son. Similar other related questions posed in that interview were: Do you know the negative impact of C60 in medicinal chemistry, and its implications? Is it poisonous? Should I dare to ask these questions to someone who is the sole author of a few fullerene based papers published in high impact journals. And, why at all a scientist who is too much theoretical would know the synthetic detail of how to make a C60 experimentally? Again, some other nontechnical questions posed were: tell us about your educational history, tell us the top researches that you have performed, etc. Even though they asked these, annoyingly they did not have any interest/patience to listen to how the candidate is addressing their questions? How arrogant and annoying it could feel when the candidate sees the interview is finished within 5-10 mins? I really hesitate to write about other details. IF I EVER COME ACROSS SIMILAR SCENARIOS AGAIN I WONT HESITATE TO ASK STARTING FROM THE SCRATCH TO THE MEMBERS “DO YOU GUYS LEARN HOW TO INTERVIEW? HOW DO DEAL and RESPECT YOUR COLLEAGE WITH WHOM YOU MAY LIKELY TO SHARE THE SAME CHAIR IN OTHER FORTHCOMING YEARS AFTER BEING SELECTED?”

My question to UGC: should this be the way to judge/decide/select candidates to educate/trend the future generations in science, education, and research, and to advance the educational system of India?

How come illiterate and uneducated personnel would educate/advance the future generations if they are appointed to do that?
indianeducation
 
Sep 12, 2012

UGCFRP INTERVIEW PROCESS

I came to know about the recent interview process of my friend for UGC-FRP. Sadly, this programme also showed that this is yet another programme and there is going to be no improvement in the Indian science.

The very fundamental shocking thing is that there is no technical presentation as a part of the interview. For a national level faculty selection (that too for a research oriented scheme), it is surprising that the interview is purely based on personal interview that lasts for nearly 15 mins. The questions asked in the interview also were so vexatious. In the interview, the so called apex level committee asks a candidate to describe about one’s own best work for a few minutes. After 2 or 3 mins, they start to ask the candidates about their future work plan. If at all, any relevance is shown with respect to the candidate’s past research area, then immediately the question arises that what new science you are bringing in. If a person says something new, then the question arises that you don’t have experience in this field and how can you succeed. This is an extremely dangerous approach, because research does not work that way. First of all, based on 2-3 mins of briefing about one’s research area (that too not by means of a presentation), how the committee can really evaluate about the research quality of a person? Secondly, without properly seeing through the future work proposal, how the committee can easily judge that one too?

Then comes a round, where the candidate was questioned a lot from the text books. Mere principles are not sufficient. The candidates should answer exactly what the committee member has in his/her mind. It is possible for anyone to ask a specific text book question, which one is familiar with. Its not necessary that the candidate should exactly know that. Many of the research-based candidates, who have lost text book touch for years face difficulty in this. Does that mean they are not qualified? When the committee members have started teaching, did they know everything at that time? Or, even now, apart from their specialized area, can they answer for any text book question from other area? In my understanding, the candidates who have been shortlisted for the interview should have an established track record. Otherwise, UGC would not have certainly shortlisted them for the interview from 1000s of candidates. But then, what the apex committee thinks of it? Do they think that the candidates have been shortlisted based on any wrong ideology? Should the candidates take all the efforts to go there and attend the interview just to get humiliated? Even if the committee feels a candidate would not fit for this position, they should still treat the candidate with dignity. The current methodology of interview is rather downgrading people. Treating with dignity implies that the candidate should be given a fair platform such as a technical presentation to showcase one’s own background and research accomplishments. If this is a programme to improve the research standard in Universities, then the selection criteria should be made specifically for that.

My concern is not to pin point/criticize on any individual. The thing which bothers me the most is that, even at the higher education level, the standard is too low. Initially I thought that this is a wonderful scheme to boost the research standards in Indian Universities. But the current methodology adapted for the interview shows that this is going to be yet another programme on paper and nothing good is going to happen.

May GOD save India!

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